The first artificial sweetener dates to 1879, when a scientist working on coal tar derivatives tasted his work. by Spindash » Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:31 pm, PostRe: Pepsi Max Makes You Fat? Switching to a diet soda can help reduce your caloric intake, especially if you're already a soda drinker. Social conditions such as poverty, social isolation and inability to get or prepare preferred foods can cause unintentional Grazing For Weight Loss, and this … Why would anyone bother drinking something like this that tastes like crap and is full of man-made chemicals? I was in day 2 of a water fast and drank about a liter of Pepsi Max throughout a day of swimming laps in a pool and not ingesting anything else except black coffee and water. Fat people can't handle these cravings, stuff their face, and make the diet drink of no benefit to them. Between the two things mentioned: Pepsi Max and your self-flaggelating diet I think it is the latter which is much more likely to cause you harm. There are no calories in the soda so you won't directly gain weight from it. I would recommend that test with a sugar-free / caffeine-free drink... And remember that Pepsi Max has twice the caffeine of other diet pops. Just one Diet Coke or Pepsi Max a day can ‘triple the risk of a deadly stroke’ and dementia YOU MIGHT want to put down that can of Diet Coke. This is a no brainer. by Errkal » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:54 am, PostRe: Re: Pepsi Max Makes You Fat? But my best guess is that an occasional glass of wine or Pepsi will not significantly impact your weight. Your ketone blood levels mean nothing to being in ketosis or to fat loss. that would be interesting to do. researchers from the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health in the US As the blood sugar did not move, you can be certain that there was no insulin reaction provoked by the drink. How? Eating too many calories above maintenance will make you gain weight, and since diet soda has 0 calories it won't contribute in a bad way. It isn't the Pepsi Max, its the full English breakfast you are eating alongside it. But what about having a Pepsi Max instead of a glass of red wine during the weekends? Experiment: Optimal Ketosis for Weight Loss and Improved Performance, https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyxv-Kecjm1eH83nmDmVlvA. That's why you should absolutely never drive after drinking a lot of alcohol, as it can be extremely dangerous, as noted by Dr. Knight. I lost 15 pounds in 2 months drinking Pepsi Max. According to Dr. Robert Atkins' Diet Revolution, circa 1972, he clearly states that caffeine consumption should be limited to two cups a day due to its ability to stimulate insulin. Summary Diet soda is a mixture of carbonated water, artificial or … Is it possible that it dropped because you drank it fasted. "In the case of driving, you think you can make that corner, you think there is enough space between you and the car in front, and so on," he continued. PostPepsi Max Makes You Fat? When the experiment started I was in pronounced ketosis since several weeks (due to a strict LCHF diet). Therefore no weight gain. That way i can hopefully eliminate any non-physiological responses. I've never understood this either (just replace Pepsi Max with Diet Coke for me). I did try diet coke some years ago and put on 5kg in no time. and how long time to rise back? Am working on giving it up. Someone IRL told me that it does so I just set out to find proof. How? By interacting with this site, you agree to our disclaimer. One objection: Was the culprit the artificial sweeteners or the caffeine in the soda? How? If you need that much caffeine, I'd suggest switching to coffee or tea. Blood sugar and ketones were both a bit above 4 mmol/L (which equals a blood sugar of 72 mg/dl). Stay updated like 500,000+ subscribers with our weekly Diet Doctor newsletter. at any rate, I am convinced that artificial sweeteners cant be good for you period and am phasing them out of my diet. How? You should repeat the experiment with those. This is very interesting. Will this effect my weight loss and health ? The ketones probably reduced because the water in the (very large) drink diluted the blood enough to move the ketone concentration down. Measured with my Ketonix, it had no impact. by Cyburn2 » Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:37 pm, PostRe: Pepsi Max Makes You Fat? Cola cola zero does not have the same effect, I have lost 28kg drinking liters of it.. saw the same results on my wife, half a kg down when she doesn't drink it and one kg up when she does. Indirectly, some studies suggest that artificial sweeteners trick your body into metabolizing things differently which might result in weight gain. What a pity you can't actually measure insulin at home. My interpretation is that this potentially could result in a decreased fat burning, making it harder to lose weight. ), it took 10-15 minutes. We comply with the HONcode standard for trustworthy health information. by DML » Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:04 pm, PostRe: Pepsi Max Makes You Fat? Theres obviously been some kind of new research debunking the aspartme thing as all the Government 'Live Longer' campaign things now actively reccomened switching from full fat drinks to diet drinks. In my opinion, "giving up" foods/drinks isn't what you do on low-carb. Aspartame found in the sugar free drinks that blubberbuts drink can cause unstable blood sugar, causing you to crave carbs and retain water. This experiment can’t tell, but I would gladly bet money on the sweeteners. I don't believe anyone have tested this scientifically. Pepsi Max … Most diet sodas, like Diet Pepsi, contain no calories, so drinking a can … I don't believe artificial sweeteners cause weight gain, I believe people cause their own weight gain as it is iIlogical to consume a zero calorie additive that results in a caloric result. They'd never have done that before. I think we need another test run with carbonated water. so that brings me to #2 2.) I knew there was something wrong with you when you didn't like Umbrellas of Cherbourg. Does Pepsi max make you fat? Top Answer. I am not hungry through the day and I am barely losing any weight. It stayed at around 4,5 mmol/L (80 mg/dl) and the tiny variation is probably within the margin of error of the meter. How? I drank 2 liters of Pepsi max a day for 2 weeks but I have now stopped. You also stated that if the artificial sweeteners weren't the cause of insulin production, then you surmise it must be the caffeine in the soda, but your next experiment will be coffee. pepsi max is sugar free and has virtually no calories so no u will not gain any weight at all. Conclusion. Pepsi Max and other products with artificial sweeteners are thought not to affect peoples weight, as they contain no calories. During the dark mark I drank the Pepsi (50 cl / 17 oz. the 1kg/1/2kg up down is due to water weight, your not going to gain 1kg of fat (a 9 x 1000 = 9000 calorie surplus) from even 10 litres of pepsi max in one day. :). Drinking Pepsi Max (or any diet drink) in itself won't make you fat. Between the two, i’d rather cut out artificially sweetened soda. However, it's also impossible to know if the response wasn't caused by d and/or e so it's impossible to interpret the results and find the causal agent and you definitely can't conclusively say the response was caused by the Pepsi Max (let alone blaming some singular component of the Pepsi Max for the response). The only negative thing that diet soda and most carbonated drinks for that matter does is make you feel bloated. The first four blood samples were taken before I started drinking Pepsi Max. That would lower ketone levels, as ketones are very sensitive to insulin. Nice self-experiment though, I'll probably repeat something similar on myself soon but I'll test only once but I'll repeat the test once every three days for ten total tests to see if the response is the same every time. How? I wonder though, did you drink the Pepsi without any food all day? Ditching your favourite fizzy drink for its seemingly innocent sugar-free sister is no better for preventing weight gain – and it could also harm the environment. It's true, Diet Coke does contain just ONE calorie, making it a much better alternative than it "full-fat" cousin Coke, which packs 139 calories per 330ml can. Then it continued down during two and a half hours until it had dropped by almost 50 percent. The substance he had created was saccharine, which is 300 times sweeter than sugar. This is interesting. Answer. There are probably other issues with consuming lots of artificial sweeteners but I'll ignore those for now :). after about an hour. I want you to do the same thing with black coffee since it is promoted to drink during fasting, but it can mess with cortisol levels which must impact blood sugar, insulin, ketones, etc.? My six hour experiment the other day implies that the answer might be yes. What is clear from the experiment is that something happened. level 1 To address the experiment, ketone production is a byproduct of being in ketosis, not the reason for it. Social conditions. And insulin release is a lot more sensitive? Can you do an experiment with using stevia? Fasting and Pepsi Max. I drank the Pepsi Max (17 oz.) How? If you suspect your habit of drinking diet soda is the potential cause of your bloating and water retention, you may be on to something. The ketone level dropped precipitously. I would watch you pull apart interesting studies. It won't make you fat. I usually have 2 eggs for breakfast, bone broth for lunch, and meat, cheese and a green vegetable for dinner. If the sweeteners slow your fat burning and increase your hunger they will of course affect your weight – calories or not. Diet Pepsi and Pepsi Max are both carbonated drinks. How? I have not experienced any I'll affects from Splenda (I use Splenda sparingly due to its fillers and that does slow weight loss), sucralose (EZ Sweetz) and Erythirol and neither cause me to overeat. JavaScript must be enabled in your browser to log in! Ok, your sugar levels didn't change and your ketones decreased, so I'm not having Pepsi Max on a daily basis. Researchers found that people who drink diet Pepsi have a 75 percent increase in waist circumference over the ten years study, compared with those who do not drink any kind of Pepsi. - posted in Fasting and Cleansing: So Ive read a lot of contradicting information about drinking diet sodas when fasting. Please help! Lagamorph wrote: Pepsi Max will make you fat because it tastes so god awful you'll go and drink three times as much of a decent sugary drink. by sawyerpip » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:36 pm, PostRe: Re: Pepsi Max Makes You Fat? I stopped buying it entirely now and suggested everyone I know to do the same. by Lagamorph » Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:21 pm, PostRe: Re: Pepsi Max Makes You Fat? Im fasting to lose weight, and Im on day 4 of a 21 day fast. It also won't be doing you any favours in general though. Can confirm the same with artificially flavored whey protein. I believe your Pepsi Max experiment may have some flaws because it's clear you state the artificial sweeteners did not cause weight gain, but the individual's desire to consume more food in excess of his/her regular meal. The black line is the blood sugar and the purple line is the ketones. Pepsi Max is fine to drink it wont make you fat there is strawberry float all in it. Absolute rubbish. by Jonathan86 » Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:06 pm, PostRe: Pepsi Max Makes You Fat? I am not in the medical field. If you’re suffering from anxiety or depression, please take a moment to look at what you’re eating and drinking. If you find that you’re consuming a large amount of aspartame each day, I would encourage you to permanently eliminate it and adopt … by JV » Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:42 pm, PostRe: Pepsi Max Makes You Fat? by TheTurnipKing » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:02 am, PostRe: Pepsi Max Makes You Fat? I drink a lot of diet caffeine free pepsi and it has zero effect on my blood ketones and appetite for that matter. But I have hard times believing that drinking Pepsi Max several times a day will add anything positive to your health. Diet Pepsi comes in different flavors like lime twist and lemon twist; conversely, the variants of Pepsi Max include ginger, vanilla, lime, and mango. I sound a lot like this. Regular sodas are full of calories, 140 per can and up. I have used artificial sweeteners for over 30 years live a low carb lifestyle. I am drinking a lot of caffeine free diet Pepsi, and my ketones barely register. Ketones are only a tiny trace element in the blood, so a large drink will have a disproportionately large effect in diluting them. It'll neither help nor hinder. I did the test with Coke Zero (more than 1L/33Oz). by tnman » Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:06 pm, PostRe: Pepsi Max Makes You Fat? How? I know that isn't perfectly healthy, but as long as I do it rarely it's no big deal, for me at least. While some studies have shown an association between consumption of diet beverages and overweight, none has shown a cause and effect relationship. I drink caffeine free diet Pepsi and there are other sodas that do not contain caffeine. They are not the reason for it, higher ketone blood levels do not mean more fat loss. Thanks! Afaik my dad who's a professor claims there was never a single scientific study to back up aspartame being bad but since science tries to prove itself wrong I suppose somebody went with that hypothesis and it turned out to indeed be bullshit. But according to new research, guzzling light sodas like Diet Coke won’t stop you getting fat. Coke Zero does not provide any calories and is not a significant source of nutrition. If the sweeteners slow your fat burning and increase your hunger they will of course affect your weight – calories or not. Drinking pepsi once in a while doesn't harm you. How? Hi Marcos! Some medications can cause Grazing For Weight Loss, while others can cause weight gain. It seems to contradict the laws of physics. But when I stopped the experiment, almost five hours after drinking the soda, it was still not back where it had started. by Slartibartfast » Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:51 pm, PostRe: Pepsi Max Makes You Fat? by hamm sandwich » Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:20 pm, PostRe: Pepsi Max Makes You Fat? Chances are you're either expecting too much (as you're closer to goal your weight loss will slow down and you should only be aiming for around 0.5lb loss per week) or you're not logging accurately. Well I'm no scientist but I do know that when I chug a bottle of Pepsi Max or Coke Zero or other diet sodas my tummy is full (even uncomfortable) and thus I am not hungry. I wonder: What if your fat burning is impaired for more than five hours, every time you ingest artificial sweeteners? If the above post has offended you in any way, please fill in, Lagamorph's Underwater Photography Thread. Eat more. Ok, your sugar levels didn't change and your ketones decreased, so I'm not having Pepsi Max on a daily basis. I'd say it has even aided my fat loss because it curbs my hunger. I was fasting six hours before the experiment started. Pepsi max: Is a sugar-free drink that won't make you gain or lose weight. If nothing happened to my blood sugar the effect on my ketone levels were more dramatic. Pepsi Max and other products with artificial sweeteners are thought not to affect peoples weight, as they contain no calories. How? I have a question. Pepsi Max is like sex in the mouth other pop is shite. My god this as bad as the food babe you know the one who said they put nitrogen in the air on airplanes very poor and non scientific. by Glowy69 » Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:23 pm, PostRe: Re: Pepsi Max Makes You Fat? I have drunk it 3 times in 6 hours, 10 ounces each. Fifteen minutes after drinking the Pepsi my ketone level appeared to drop, from around 4 to 3,4 mmol/L. What a out toothpaste? so could you not just ingest an equal dose of sucralose dissolved in the same quantity of water as a test? Helps cut down on total eating for the day as I do not feel like eating until dinnertime. As I noted when planning the experiment one of my suspicions were that the artificial sweeteners might trigger a release of insulin. Remember that you don't have to give up everything at once. Diet Pepsi is associated with weight gain and metabolic disorders, whereas Pepsi Max is associated with brain damage. What about Zevia, made from the Stevie plant, all natural, no coloring or anything? The results can be seen above. Why not keep drinking the diet pepsi for a little while longer and see you you feel a few weeks from now? I've been consuming unhealthy amounts of it during my recent 7 weeks cut and my fat loss has been exactly as predicted beforehand (withno regard for any hypothetical effect of calorie free soda). by Cal » Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:24 pm, PostRe: Pepsi Max Makes You Fat? I have stopped completely now. Without a baseline this proves nothing really. It seems, if i have any carbs, my ketone levels drop to zero. Over the years, more artificial sweeteners were develop… If I don't drink it after 5 hours, Will the ketone level rise back to the started number again? How? Imagine my surprise when I gained 1kg by the next morning.. One 12-ounce (354-ml) can of Coca-Cola Zero Sugar (Coke … If you ingested a LCHF meal and used one bottle of Pepsi to go along with it... would results be the same or would the fat slow the digestion or impact of the Pepsi? That’s an oversimplification that ignores any hormonal effects and resulting hunger. The research suggests that drinking diet drinks makes you crave other foodstuffs packed with sugary goodness. I don't think that a sample size of one makes for either reliable or accurate data. I have been on a low carb, almost zero carb diet for 4 weeks. But then he tried to say that aspartame causes insulin spikes despite being non-caloric. Nice try, but stay in school a bit longer if you want to go the science route . Pepsi helps to gain weight Drinking regular Pepsi causes gaining weight. Perhaps I’ll do a similar experiment later, drinking black coffee instead. For many years, it was used only medicinally as a product for diabetics needing to limit their sugar intake. Diet soda's..ugghhh. Maybe because you are so keto adapted it wasn't enough to affect your blood glucose level but a less keto adapted person might have an insulin response and then a lowering of their glucose as a result of that? 2014-10-09 22:57:44 2014-10-09 22:57:44. yes! While not life-threatening, bloating is often uncomfortable -- and even painful -- and water retention can compound the situation, making you feel worse. As a better future experiment, you might want to consider just mixing artificial sweetener with water, and then combining pure caffeine with water, and then have a control (pure water) and then possible even have a mildly salted water to hopefully rule out any response due to the taste. "There's the physical aspect too: the motor skills. by Fatal Exception » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:12 am, PostRe: Pepsi Max Makes You Fat? As a diabetic who got the disease due to liver function error.. and not by eating crap.. drinking pepsi max didn't lead me to gain weight as i didn't have bad dietary habits which got me diabetes in the first place, like most people. How? Asked by Wiki User. How? its what you put with it that will make you gain weight ie the vodka It has no calories. On low-carb you build strong, healthy eating habits, and sometimes you make exception to these habits :) Personally, I have 2-3 beers around two times a month. How? by Dig Dug » Tue Sep 23, 2014 9:34 am, PostRe: Pepsi Max Makes You Fat? It makes you that way because all of the sugar. Based on my experiments (N=1) Pepsi Max Lime has had zero impact on my weight. I used to be addicted to this stuff (maybe 4 or 5 cans a day) but I've managed to wean myself off it and on to sparkling Buxton mineral water (similar quantities) which gives me that lovely clean mouth feeling followed by a refreshed "aahhh" and watering eyes. Two factors contributed to its rising popularity in the general population: a sugar shortage during World War II and thinness becoming the standard of beauty. Your body will stay in ketosis to keep using ketones for fuel as long as there is no glucose available. I have a question. That's the only crap I put in my body. And mouthwater with fluoride, it's horribly sweet! I test daily and my readings are pretty consistent running 2.2 - 2.7 mmol/L. Diet sodas have zero calories. Do you have a youtube channel. Its impossible for diet pepsi/ pepsi max to make you gain weight, as they contain less than one calorie per bottle. The benefits of water over it are pretty negligible, but it might help to have a general healthier overall lifestyle... cutting out artificial sweeteners might make the real thing more satisfying thus you eat less sugar overall. As you can see nothing special happened to my blood sugar during the experiment. Does anyone know or have experience as to whether drinking Pepsi max with water will effect the amount of weight I lose? After that the ketone level started rising again. Not really, but if you drink too much, then yes. I wonder if your insulin level did go up as other studies seem to suggest might happen. How? Don't get your medical information from friends, tv or the internet. My thinking is that since ketones are produced when the body requires energy and burns fat to get it that perhaps the amount of caffeine in the sugar-free pop provided enough 'energy' during that short time frame that the body didn't need to find it from its own fat stores. With the exception of d and e, you could still make the conclusion that drinking a Pepsi Max would elicit some form of response but it's impossible to pinpoint the causal factor. That's determined by how many calories you eat vs. That's determined by how many calories you eat vs. How many your burn off. Maybe. It has sweeteners in it. You may have heard that diet drinks can "make you gain weight" but when you look closely at this idea, it just doesn't hold up. by Pedz » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:30 am, PostRe: Pepsi Max Makes You Fat? by Frank » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:13 am, PostRe: Re: Pepsi Max Makes You Fat? No shock there, but the areas of the fat build up should give you pause. Its impossible for diet pepsi/ pepsi max to make you gain weight, as they contain less than one calorie per bottle. A can of Diet Coke contains 46 mg of caffeine, while Diet Pepsi contains 35 mg (1, 6). Pepsi Max will make you fat because it tastes so god awful you'll go and drink three times as much of a decent sugary drink. Perhaps this is due to insulin release, perhaps not. That's determined by how many calories you eat vs. How many your burn off. How? The information we provide at DietDoctor.com is not intended to replace consultation with a qualified medical professional. I saw the same from 7UP zero. this would control for the other chemicals, the carbonation etc and give some clearer results? by Death's Head » Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:17 am, PostRe: Pepsi Max Makes You Fat? by Green Gecko » Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:59 pm, Users browsing this forum: ArthurArobe, Christopher, D_C, Finiarél, Frank, Memento Mori, mic, Oblomov Boblomov, Qikz, Rich, Skarjo, Somebody Else's Problem, Trelliz, Tsunade, wensleydale and 156 guests. The small variation in the first tests is probably due to the meter not being more exact (normal for home meters). A … Diet Soda Does Not Make You Gain Weight. Wiki User Answered . That’s an oversimplification that ignores any hormonal effects and resulting hunger. How? Diet drinks don't cause weight gain or cause weight loss to stagnate (I continue to lose whilst drinking Diet Coke most days for the last year). Here is a link to our YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyxv-Kecjm1eH83nmDmVlvA. 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